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My invitation to friends to write joint essays recieved the following comment from an anonymous reader:
"things remain white and or male because males of all shades like to elevate the importance of one another----and decree one another the experts in all things or find women who will agree with their decrees----liberal, conservative, 'social democratic' or whatever label you want to apply---that's what ya'all do---I've watched it happen in the "progressive" arena for many years; seems to be a resurgence of it in the Santa Barbara area; young men---some white, some straight, but most of all men---decreeing themselves the great hope----and its really tiresome....many of us are just waiting for this tide to pass......so please, get over yourselves, ok?"
This comment had a rather large effect on my thinking lately, and I wanted to respond substantively. Forgive me if I am not completely coherent- there’s a lot to think about here.
First, I think the point that s(he) is making is important and true. Anyone who has worked in progressive activism has seen the ways in which men dominate discussion, strategy and leadership- often in subtle and "legitimate" ways. I've seen it, I've done it, I've been called on it, I've ignored it, and I've tried to challenge it. We see it in academia, punditry, journalism, and the “blogosphere”, despite the latter’s constant self-congratulationism to the contrary. And, of course, as the author notes, we see it in local politics here in Santa Barbara.
I have some idea of the issues and individuals alluded to, and, unhappily, would say that I am part of the problem. Some of us who are working to change local politics haven’t been doing a good job of making sure that women and their perspectives are front and center, though I know that people think about it more than the author implies. I don’t think that anyone really believes that they are the “great hope”, though I understand why others might say this about a number of local activist boys.
It is difficult to know, however, where the argument outlined above ends and where the often knee-jerk reaction to “young turks” begins. There are people who would make the above statement from an honest sense of exclusion and injustice. There is also a part of local feminist politics which is sometimes inattentive to questions of race and economic justice, and looks with suspicion toward new politics and new leaders. I have no doubt that the author of the above comment belongs in the first group.
Furthermore, while gender and sexual privilege are obviously in play here, people’s behavior is also informed by a desire to overcome barriers of age, class and oligarchy. Getting involved in electoral or “formal” political institutions often leads to some degree of grandstanding, networking or deal-making: three sets of behavior which can perpetuate the marginalization of women, and which are often generally anti-democratic.
I’m not sure, however, that some degree of entrepreneurship isn’t inevitable. It is part of the political terrain. This doesn’t mean, however, that we can’t be a whole lot better about how we define, develop and practice leadership in the movement. We have to simultaneously engage in politics while fighting to transform politics fundamentally. I don’t know exactly how to do that, and I want to hear from lots of people. I do think that I have something to contribute to the discussion, as does the anonymous commenter.
So, let’s talk.
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Perfect illustration this weekend:
Big celebration at UCSB for Dick Flacks retirement; a conference on local progressive issues is being held featuring local activists or those who once were local. Great idea and topics;
here's the catch: of 40 panelists/speakers and/or facilitators, only NINE are women. NINE.
lørdag, mai 06, 2006 5:13:00 p.m.
Dick Flacks here:
I am the person who selected all the speakers at the conference referred to. The aim was to present speakers who were my students and a few with whom I closely worked, and to span generations over the last 45 years. It turns out I have mentored a lot more men than women in these years. Maybe this demonstrates a real problem in my mentoring efforts over the years; my feeling has been that at the same time it represents the rise of feminismin the unviersity, and the availability of women faculty as role models. Still, the keynote speaker was Professor Frances Fox Piven. Two women I did mentor, Rose Ann Demoro, now director of the California Nurses Association, and Heather Booth, one of the leading feminist organizers of the last 40 years, were speakers. Some of the leading women in our community spoke: Marisela Marquez, Linda Krop, Elizabeth Robinson, Renee Bergan, Hannah beth Jackson, Lois Capps...
Had we planned a conference to represent the full range of perspectives on the issues addressed the selection certainly would have been far different. That was n't the intent of this event, though.
So raising the question here leads to self examination on my part which I appreciate. However, I don't know what larger tendency of 'male' domination is really evidenced. And I would love to know just how the actual content of the event was distorted by the gender disproportion noticed here.
tirsdag, mai 09, 2006 12:14:00 a.m.
Through the activist circles that I have participated in, I have learned that whenever there are charges of exclusionary politics that amount to an expression of homophobia, racism, and/or sexism, there is almost always a degree of truth to the charges. The blog world is no different.
What I find particularly problematic is proposing to alleviate the problem of exclusionary politics by incorporating more people into a conversation and then assume, ipso facto, that exclusionary politics have been summarily dealt with. What is needed, I think, is a systematic look at how systems of patriarchy, white privalege, and heteronormativity play into all of our interactions. In other words, you don't get props from me for assuming that having a diverse role call of contributers to our discussion automatically equalls a genuinely pluralistic endeavor. Now, that said, one important step towards a democratic ethos involves the incorporation of as many voices possible into our conversations, but it can not end with incorporation.
The point of affirmative inclusion should be to challenge the very norms that permit us to think in terms of exclusion and inclusion as criteria in the first place.
onsdag, mai 17, 2006 8:22:00 p.m.
Hi Daraka,
You make a very interesting point. Living in one of the worlds "most equal" societies, I still tend to notice what you have noticed.
In our own social democratic organisation, in politics as a whole, and in society in general, we promote white mainstream men.
Almost every county of the Norwegian Labour Party has a male top on the parliament election list, almost every county party has a male leader. Men also dominate local politics.
Some would claim it is a personal responsibility, especially within such an open and respecting environment, to make your voice heard. But as socialists or social democrats, we can not hide from the obvious structural errors that appear.
I don't have any answers, but you have given me A LOT to think about.
Best regards
John, friend of Siri, regular reader.
(We met at Utøya a few years back, I was really fat with a shaved, and looked sort of neo-nazi-like)
fredag, mai 19, 2006 1:32:00 p.m.
The comment in question took a stab at what I have been noticing more and more lately. The patriarchy is definitely asserting itself more and more lately, even here in the SB bubble. I agree Daraka, that some locals in the feminist movement have blinders on when it comes to race and class, but as a feminist who understands more than one form of oppression (and that they're all connected) the male power structure (usually white, not always) in SB has become more cocky lately.
In response to Michelle G.'s:
"Women need to take an active role in realizing their own personal power."
Umm...is this a reference to bootstraps???
All this said...i'd vote for/support a male feminist with a a strong belief in social justice over a female feminist who holds events at her house as her only activist activity.
tirsdag, mai 30, 2006 5:00:00 p.m.
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